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"MY ID DOES NOT SCAN" - Barcode Club Stats (BCS) ( self )

submitted by AdminFIDV Moderator Warning: 0%

Hello,

We're going to make this clear.

BCS(Barcode Club Stats) app on Iphone/Android has been proven to be unreliable.

We have tested it thoroughly and can say it does indeed scan a lot of Real ID's as FAKE.

For example, OLD OH scans as real, new OH scans as fake. Even some old OH will scan as fake as well.

BCS isn't always up to date and they do have errors, they aren't a reliable company to determine if your ID does not scan.

If you want to make sure you ID scans please go to

Upload a picture of the back of your ID and it will tell you what is encoded (2D Barcode).

You can also use, "IDScannr, VSonline" If your data gets pulled up then it will scan at 99% of places, liquor stores, bars, walmarts, etc.

Thank you!



Upvoted: i_main_darius, AdminFIDV
Downvoted: 1fr0sty1
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NANI Lucy Computer Nerd —

If your ID doesn't pass, and you want to know whether it's BCS's mistake or the vendor's mistake, open a ticket on IDLucy.com with the subject "Check My Barcode", attach a scan of the back of your ID, and when I get the chance I will check and reply back to that ticket and tell you. I can only do that for IDs I have real scans for though, so if I don't have it I'll tell you that I don't. If you have a real version of that ID (u21 is fine) scan it, and add a reply to that ticket, and that way I can compare your fake to your real and tell you based off of that.

Devil's advocate for 2 sec:

Yes, super unreliable, my actual real ID scanned as fake for months, and there's been 1 bartender try to pull my real ID.

But also, plenty of bars do 100% rely on the BCS status. again, someone has tried to pull my real ID over it. so regardless of that app being horrible, whether an ID passes or not is still a valid question to ask. (If they know bars in their area use BCS, then we shouldn't suggest IDs that, although the barcode is encoded perfectly fine, BCS being the shitty app it is still doesn't recognize)

Maybe we can use these ratings & somewhere put a FAQ that IDs no longer either scan or don't scan and there are shades of grey now.

  • "My ID does not scan" = the barcode is completely invalid and/or the data displayed completely doesn't match what's on the ID. (name/birthdate/address/other really major information is completely different. we should have exceptions stuff like the DD/Endr/Rest/etc fields and other stuff that don't matter) basically, "This ID doesn't scan at all or the barcode is useless"

  • "My ID scans, will not pass advanced scanner" = the data is correct, the barcode matches AAMVA format, but the format is not the same as used by the state, a generic AAMVA template was used. basically, "This ID will pass a really basic pdf417 scanner, your name/age/etc will show up and the barcode will scan, but will never (and shouldn't) pass BCS or other such app, because the barcode is formatted incorrectly."

  • "My ID scans" = the data is correct, state AAMVA format is correct, may or may not pass BCS. basically, "This ID scans, and the data encoded in the barcode is formatted correctly, so it should pass BCS/other apps, and if it doesn't pass then BCS is wrong."

  • "My ID scans but doesn't pass BCS" = same as above, but tested to not pass a specific scanner, but we've verified that it doesn't pass because the scanner is at fault and the vendor's barcode is perfectly fine. basically, "This ID scans, but doesn't pass BCS, but this error is because BCS is wrong, and it should eventually pass on a future update."

  • "My ID passes on BCS/{insert other app tested}" = same as above but tested to pass specific scanner

  • "My ID scans 1:1" = Lucy barcodes ;) "This ID has a perfect barcode, if we put data from a real ID in it would produce the same barcode, and so it is impossible to ever tell the difference. If BCS ever marks any of these fake they are also by definition marking the entirety of that issue of ID in that state fake."

Edit, sidenote: If the real ID is being scanned as fake by BCS, would you rather we make our IDs less accurate by making them pass BCS (and eventually in a future update once BCS catches up, it will be scanned as fake anyways, so this passing is only temporary)?


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Budgetfakes.com OG Vendor —

And all my new ones scan 1:1 lol


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AdminFIDV [S] Moderator —

This would be a good way for people to decide but you have to think about it from a customer perspective, 99.9% of vendors customers will not know how to check and will not know what to look for as well


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NANI Lucy Computer Nerd —

But most of the people who write reviews and stuff, are usually the people who've been around for a while and know how to check.

Maybe add an option "Check here if it scans but you aren't sure which of those above options is correct". Maybe an option to upload the barcode so trusted community members could update the review with the rating, after all unlike the other categories, which are somewhat subjective, this one is pretty objective.

From my experience new customers don't leave reviews. Most of our customers don't even know this forum exists.


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Budgetfakes.com OG Vendor —

How can a customer upload a barcode that would be killing opsec


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NANI Lucy Computer Nerd —

I meant, if a customer marks that they aren't sure they could upload a barcode that only trusted forum members with a "barcode reviewer" status could see. Those trusted members can then assign the correct rating. Aren't there people reviewing the overall reviews right now anyways before they get posted

I think it's a great idea, as much as we all like to think the security features/templates we spent all this money developing are going to make the best ID ever, and as much as we all know BCS sucks, there are still places that will just scan BCS and follow what it says. And they are fake, so BCS did "get lucky", except for the wrong reason. So it's not like you could fight your way out of it like I did with my real ID.


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realSalzinator - Last Surviving OG —

BCS stands for Bar and Club Stats you dork.


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Budgetfakes.com OG Vendor —

I agree bcs is flacky as fuck, i have about 3 or 4 real ids that scan fake and one that scans fake sometimes.


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AntonioSS22 —

How exactly does that website differ from BCS when they're both reading essentially the same type of information?

I need magstripe test bruh.


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NANI Lucy Computer Nerd —

So, although every state follows the same general guidelines in making their barcodes, every state formats the data in its barcode slightly differently.

For example, Michigan IDs don't put your weight on your ID or barcode, and will have a couple things it intentionally leaves blank. These slight variations are different for every state (and different between versions of an ID, eg. old PA vs new PA), so it is up to your vendor if they put in the extra work to match these variations.

In the past when just getting the ID to scan at all was a huge achievement (and even today a small handful) vendors would generate barcodes following the "basic general guidelines", and call it good. It'll scan, but in theory it's possible to tell these are fakes, since they don't follow the state's slightly different variation. Eg, if I got a Michigan ID, and I scanned it, and a weight came up, I know that's fake, because I know a real Michigan ID doesn't have weight encoded on the barcode.

BCS, on top of scanning, will try to pick up on these slight variations and use that to tell you if it thinks the ID is fake. The problem is BCS is really inaccurate with it, and will often call a real DMV issued ID fake (so sometimes it's completely wrong). Then people come here and complain "their ID doesn't scan" when in reality it just doesn't scan as "a real ID" on BCS due to BCS's inaccuracy, but actually the ID is perfectly fine.

That website in the OP will simply read the barcode and tell you everything that's encoded on your barcode. It won't interpret it to tell you real/fake like BCS will. We're saying you should just go and use that and just make sure whatever data comes up is correct, and if it comes up correct then call it good, because as a normal user that's the best you'll be able to reasonably do as far as determining if your barcode "scans or not".

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For magstripe test, swipe your ID on any powered on magstripe reader. The one on the gas station the next time you fill up your car works fine. If the reader does literally anything (error, etc) then your magstripe works. If the magstripe doesn't work, the reader should do nothing at all.


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VenomV74 —

Ive come to terms with BCS that my FYD IL is totally unreliable. I have scanned it over and over on BCS and it always comes back as "fake ID". Never skips a beat.

Then I test it out on a real id...it scans correctly. Another real id....also scans correctly. Yet another real id....scans correctly as well. Then I scan a South Carolina fake my friend bought.... it scans correctly too.

So to sum up, 3 reals and 1 fake scan correctly, but the FYD IL scans as fake no matter what.

I know BCS is not totally reliable, but something is definitely wrong with my fake ID. Then again, it was $50 so I cant expect much. It works at 7/11, but the cashier eyed me over after scanning it, so theres that.

PS: IDLucy site is down???


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NANI Lucy Computer Nerd —

Ok if your real IDs are around the same issue date we can call that "scans (because the data still comes up correctly) but doesn't pass advanced scanner (app in this case correctly marks it fake)".

The terminology there is important! It does "scan". It doesn't "pass". So if you want to make a post or point that out in your review, you can say "My ID barcode doesn't pass".

For Lucy site use our Tor site, idlucylit6uvimpo.onion, this is the server that I actively maintain. idlucy.com is just a cheap proxy pointing to the Tor site (back up now).


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1fr0sty1 —

Don't use that inlite site. They share info with LEO


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FamilyMan —

Interesting