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Pasting from a very similar thread where I answered this:
It's kind of an ongoing debate as to the risk/reward ratio for using an U21.

People who say always just get an O21 will point out: -Some bars and stores may just reject all vertical IDs due to improper training ("All vertical IDs=minor" is wrong but told to some employees)

-You may be asked to produce secondaries or more backup forms due to it being U21

-Have to find a state that gives you a long enough validity term so you are limited to a set of states you may not have been interested in

People who argue for using U21s will point out: -Bars are less familiar with them causing them to not recognize as many subtle differences as they would w/the O21 version -Slightly more plausible for younger looking people

-It has a sort of "Big dick energy" to it that helps with confidence, the assumption is that if they are going to show an U21, they are already ready for the ID to be examined for double checking DOB and EXP (The two things bouncers have to be careful w/ on U21s not matter fake or real) so the idea is that why would they bring a fake that is going to be looked at more?

Those are both sides of the argument as I see it, rn there are some U21's on the market but for each one the vendor also has an equivalent O21, so it's really up to what your uses are and how you feel about the above points.


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O21 is probably the better move. Some places are weird about U21 ids. We make a damn good TN too :)

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It depends on where you use it. If you use the ID of U21 to buy wine, it must be very obvious. Ha-ha



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if you are concerned about whether a U21 ID will cause less attention than an O21 ID, drive mad it may be a good idea to check the specific laws and regulations in your area regarding acceptable forms of identification for purchasing alcohol or tobacco. Some places may accept both types of IDs, while others may only accept O21 IDs.



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the decision to use an U21 ID or not is a personal one and should be based on your own risk tolerance and situation. Keep in mind that using a fake ID can have serious incredibox consequences, including legal and financial penalties, and can also harm your reputation and future opportunities.



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